Emerging leadership series - In conversation with Junjun Yang (Lily)

How would you introduce yourself?

My name’s Junjun Yang, and most people call me Lily. I am from China, and I joined the thoughtworks as a business analyst in 2021.

Can you tell me a bit about your career journey? What inspired you to take on the leadership role?

After completing my master degree in Environmental Science from Peking University,  I started my career in the digital marketing and communication industry by coincidence. Even though the problem that people are trying to resolve in digital marketing is different from that in the science labs, the approach is basically the same, namely systems thinking and analytical skills.

Since moving to a Silicon Valley technology start-up in 2016, I've held positions as marketing director. That gives me an opportunity to do lots of different things and develop skills, like capital raising, product localization, and have a full experience to build a business and expand the brand in China.

I'm very motivated by learning new things, gaining new skills, taking new responsibilities, and trying new ways to solve problems. That’s what inspired me to take on the leadership role, and why I joined the thoughtworks.

What were the top challenges you faced during your journey and how did you overcome them?

One of the biggest work challenges I’ve faced is selling ideas to others or persuading colleagues, who are just willing to listen to themselves and never listen to others’ opinions. It made the collaboration difficult, and work was proceeding slowly.

First, we need to build trust. I initiated many conversations to focus on what they have to say and let them know I truly understand what they care about. Second, invite them to identify the root of the problem together. Instead of proposing the solutions, we discussed what the current situation is, and answered essential questions together. After fully communicating, we were finally in alignment with the problem and reached a consensus on the solutions .

What motivates you everyday?

I believe we are the sum total of our experience. Experience motivates me. For positive or negative, at home or at work, be it together or alone, I may want to experience something different and progress every day.

Do you have a role model in your life? Can you name a few people who you look up to?

My role model is my last supervisor Brian Yang, and he is also my mentor because of his strong leadership and lifelong learning. We built a great team, pulled through the tough situation and accomplished business goals. He led by example and taught me how to think globally, how to communicate with staff and upper management effectively, and gave me advice on how to plan my career.

Currently in thoughtworks, many long-term thoughtworkers and great women are inspiring me everyday, such as Gregory Schalliol, who is always shown concern for social vulnerable groups and starts a program to help the unemployed in his retirement, and KK, who is willing to spend time developing others and provide learning opportunities for the junior.

What does leadership mean to you?  How would you describe your leadership style?

Leadership means collaboration to me and leading by examples.

I would describe my leadership style as delegate, and open minded. I enjoy taking the lead and responsibilities, planning for the strategy, and considering future growth. But I also like to stay involved, work hands-on and know how to help coworkers do theirs better but not get in the way.

What would be your advice to other leaders?

What I expect from myself is continued self-improvement, like thinking critically, communicating clearly, and establishing connections with others to build trust, share ideas, develop their strengths and achieve the work. This could be my advice to other leaders as well.

Chinese version

简单介绍下你自己？

我是杨君君，大家也叫我Lily。在2021年我加入thoughtworks武汉办公室，作为一名业务分析师。

可以分享一下你的职业经历吗？ 是什么促使你承担领导者的角色？

在完成七年的环境科学专业学习之后，机缘巧合使我在数字营销传播行业开始了自己的职业生涯。我发现尽管人们在数字营销领域试图解决的问题，与在科学实验室里的不同，但运用的思考和方法基本相同，比如系统思维，和逻辑分析。

在2016年，我加入了一家硅谷科技初创公司，担任市场总监。在五年的时间里，我有机会锻炼多样的能力，也有幸实践了很多不同的事情，比如支持公司不同成长阶段的融资、响应市场的需要进行产品本地化，以及拥有在中国市场建立业务，和扩大品牌影响力的宝贵经验。

学习新事物，获得新技能，承担新责任，尝试新方法来解决问题，这些激励我积极担任领导者角色，也是我当初加入thoughtworks的原因之一。

在这段经历中你所遇到的最大挑战是什么？又是如何克服的？

我曾经遇到的最大挑战之一是如何推销自己的想法，说服共事的人。如果对方过于果断，只想听自己的声音，从不听取他人意见，合作往往会格外艰难，事情的推进缓慢。

首先要做的是，构建信任，为此我发起了许多次对话，专注于让对方表达自己想说的，确保他们明白我是真正理解他们所关心的。之后，我会邀请他们一起澄清问题，或者找到分歧的根源，不着急提出解决方案，而只是讨论当前的情况，共同回答一些重要问题。经过充分的沟通，我们最终对所面对的问题，以及下一步如何去行动达成了共识。

你每天的动力是什么？

我相信，人是自身经历、经验的总和。每一天激励我的是能经历不同的事物。无论是积极的还是消极的，在家庭生活中还是工作中，无论是在集体里或独自一人，我期待每天有新的体验和成长。

在你的生活中有行为榜样吗？ 可以介绍几位你所钦佩的人吗？

我的行为榜样是之前的上司 Brian Yang，他有很强的领导力和终身学习的能力。回顾一起渡过难关，一起达成业务目标的时光，Brian始终以身作则带领团队，也教会我如何从全局思考，如何建立与员工和高层的有效沟通，以及指导我如何规划自己的职业生涯。

现在，身边有很多资深的thoughtworkers令我钦佩，比如Gregory Schalliol，他一直关心和支持社会弱势群体，刚刚退休的他将启动一个帮助当地失业者的项目；KK老师，她愿意投入自己对时间发展别人，并为后辈创造学习实践的机会。

领导力对你意味着什么？ 你如何描述自己的领导风格？

对我而言，领导力意味着合作带领进步，以身作则。

我认为自己的领导风格是知人善任，保持开明的思想。一方面，我愿意承担领导者的责任，为中长期的发展做规划；另一方面，我也很享受在团队中，处理实际的任务，帮助同事们更顺畅的创造价值，而非妨碍他们。

你对其他领导者有什么建议？

我期待自己成为持续学习者，比如，持续迭代自己的思维能力，与他人更清晰地沟通，建立联系建立信任，持续分享自己的想法，发挥个人优势以更好的实现目标，等等。这也可以作为我对其他领导者的建议。